Here we go again. Waleed Aly tries to explain the US political situation but only betrays his own ignorance. Here’s a rebuttal. Waleed’s words are quoted, my response is below each point, and the original article can be found here. Perhaps next time he will at least attempt to speak with, if not understand, Trump’s base.
It is significant that the fledgling Trump presidency has been brought to the brink of serious crisis, not by his lies, but by his truths.
Asserted without evidence. There is no crisis, only fabrications of the Democrat machine amplified by treasonous elements within the GOP.
The president’s aides have tried to help. They pretended, for instance, that Trump’s reasons for sacking James Comey as FBI director had nothing to do with the ever-tightening investigations into the president’s connections to Russia.
Waleed must be omniscient. How does Waleed Aly know what Donald Trump’s aides pretend? Or that the investigation was “ever-tightening” (it wasn’t).
Then Trump went and blurted out that it really was all about “this Russia thing”, breezily blowing his own cover. Same thing this week when Trump’s team denied he had leaked sensitive, classified information to the Russian government, only to see Trump himself confirm defiantly that he did.
He didn’t disclose confidential information though, did he? Catch up Wally.
It would be one thing if this pointed to an austere and honourable (if self-destructive) honesty.
But Trump is a man who has no trouble lying to exaggerate the scale of his election victory, or accusing Barack Obama of wiretapping his home without evidence.
Punchline. Obama, via Susan Rice’s unmasking antics, did indeed spy on Trump under the pretense of investigating “Russian interference”, which still doesn’t exist no matter how much you losers want to believe it. No wonder Fairfax is going broke.
And his decision to fire an FBI director embarking upon an uncomfortable investigation suggests a preparedness to muffle potentially embarrassing information.
Except for the part where his own DOJ immediately appointed an independant investigator?
— CNN (@CNN) May 17, 2017
The obvious conclusion, then, is that Trump is prepared to be so honest on these things because he genuinely doesn’t understand the gravity of what he’s saying.
False dichotomy. Your argument is infantile.
He doesn’t see a problem with firing someone who is investigating him.
Did you defend Comey when he investigated Clinton and democrats demanded Obama fire him immediately?
He doesn’t see why he wouldn’t blurt out classified information to a traditionally hostile power.
Traditionally hostile. Key word “traditionally”. To paraphrase Obama when Romney suggested the same thing in 2012, “The 1980’s called. They want their foreign policy back.” Russia seems to be our only genuine ally in fighting ISIS (i.e. The McCain/Obama/Clinton “moderate rebels”). I can only assume you want Assad gone? Whose side are you on Wally?
The most recent – and incendiary – report that Trump had asked Comey to drop the investigation into his former national security adviser, Mike Flynn, only underscores this.
100% false. Comey himself testified under oath.
— Nick Short 🇺🇸 (@PoliticalShort) May 17, 2017
No one alive to the gross malfeasance of such a request would dare do it directly. It would surely be a more cunning manoeuvre, done subtly and deniably.
Wally, your projection is showing.
And while it is true the White House is denying it, it is a hell of a thing to end up in the memo of an FBI director famous for documenting controversial exchanges since his time working with the George W. Bush administration. Especially since, if that memo exists, it seems eminently discoverable by Congress.
This memo supposedly dated four weeks after the FBI ended the Flynn investigation? Someone is lying and it’s not Trump.
The point here is that we might not be looking at a president who fulfils the worst fears of those who watched his campaign aghast, and who had him pinned as a dictator in waiting.
Put on your pink hat Wally. You sound like a pussy.
It’s entirely possible Trump’s quasi-dictatorial impulses are by accident. He hasn’t, for instance, even bothered filling most of the government positions he’s authorised to fill. He shows apparently little interest in dominating the apparatus of the state.
Really? A small government Republican doesn’t want a bigger government? I’m shocked (I’m not). The only way you can possibly explain Trump is “he must be a dictator by accident”? You still don’t understand what’s really happened.
He seems vastly more interested in identifying whoever presents a difficulty, and either abusing or evicting them. So there’s lots of talk of “so-called judges” who ruled against Trump’s Muslim ban, and a string of clunky firings. But there’s no systematic takeover of the American government. Not yet, anyway.
Whoa. An obstructionist judiciary preventing the executive from enacting the will of the people is thankfully obstructing him from enacting the will of the people? Who do those stupid proles think they are? P.S. it was never a Muslim ban it was a 90-day halt on immigration from Obama’s list of terror-prone regions. You’re being deliberately misleading and you know it.
I suppose that’s a relief of sorts. But it points to a serious crisis now brewing in American democracy. This is a country ruled by a man who doesn’t seem to grasp its most foundational civic tenets;
who doesn’t understand the importance of independent law enforcement bodies, or judiciaries, or even of the need for restraints on presidential power, just as he seems not to understand the point of a free media.
It’s like he doesn’t grasp the concepts of conflicts of interest, or obstructions of justice.
In Trump’s hands, these are content-free abstractions: annoyances to be sidestepped rather than sacred limits to be observed, even if grudgingly.
That doesn’t mean he can escape these things. The courts will still check his power, irrespective of whether or not he understands or respects why. He’s unlikely to be able to quash FBI investigations.
Yeah I’m sure a man who wants to “quash” and investigation appoints a special investigator, exactly what the democrats have been demanding.
The press will continue to hold him to account, and indeed seems newly invigorated by this presidency, which has made it more relevant than ever.
That’s obviously a threat and a promise, but yeah…we noticed.
The Washington Post’s story on the classified information revealed to Russia broke its own record this week for most online readers of a story per second.
And that’s really what this is all about for WaPo (and Fairfax and Murdoch et al) – CLICKS to sell ADS.
But the trouble is that so much of Trump’s voting base seem not to care about these civic tenets, either.
Wrong. It’s not Trump’s base that wants to erode and undermine the constitution. That’s entirely your side.
It’s true his approval rating is dire, hitting lows in the 30s and 40s. And it’s also true only around 35 per cent of Americans deem his firing of Comey to be appropriate.
Is this like the time HuffPo gave Hillary a “98.2% chance of winning”? HAHAHAHA. Dire indeed.
But this is a president who came to office with less than 50 per cent of the vote in a low-turnout election. Put simply, he won with the support of around 25 per cent of eligible voters. If 35 per cent of Americans approve of his actions, it’s entirely possible that includes just about everyone who voted for him last November.
Your tears are delicious. I look forward to the results of the voter fraud investigation. I’m sure you’ll thoroughly report the findings.
That’s going to get ugly if the noose continues to tighten. We’re now beginning to see congressional Republicans hedge their bets on Comey’s reported memo.
Traitorous swamp rats, you mean?
Jason Chaffetz, who chairs the House of Representatives oversight committee, has now formally asked the FBI to hand over the memo.
House Speaker Paul Ryan has said he thinks that’s an entirely appropriate request. Senator Lindsay Graham wants Comey to testify to congress, and so does Marco Rubio. John McCain has begun drawing comparisons with Watergate.
It’s hilarious watching you hypocrites side with Songbird McCain and his neocon warmonger minions. It’s almost like you want to continue bombing the middle east.
And if Republicans find Trump’s position untenable, that leads us down the road of impeachment. I’ve never thought that could happen. But I have to admit it’s more likely than it was a fortnight ago.
Do you want a President Pence?
But now imagine that for a moment: a president staring down the barrel of impeachment for violating a series of fundamental principles neither he, nor his supporters, seem to believe in.
What happens then to that significant chunk of the country that would feel the system has robbed them of their president for no reason they respect?
Let me rephrase: What happens if we rob them of their president for no reason? Civil war, Waleed. And it’ll be The Disarmed Clinton Archipelago versus The Second Amendment Trumpland.
It’s the kind of disastrous scenario that happens when a nation forgets itself. It’s what flows from a politics that is in such a state of institutional disrepair that it has become about nothing more than winning: sacrificing principles on the altar of certain pre-determined political outcomes.
Like when the DNC rigged the primary to ensure Hillary “it’s her turn” Clinton was the candidate?
Democracy has never truly been about outcomes. It’s about process, deliberation, and civic restraint. And just now, that looks like something one of the world’s great democracies has left behind.
“…one of the world’s great democracies”? Wally Wally Wally. That’s the whole point. Trump is the last hope of saving the republic. If he fails, the America we know is finished for good. Perhaps that’s why you anticipate his downfall with such glee. But don’t get too cocky. Trump is not just a president and what he represents is not just American. A new generation has tasted hope for the first time.
Waleed Aly is a Fairfax Media columnist and a presenter on The Project. (LOL both fake news)
P.S. Just in case Fairfax disables the comment section, I’ll leave the very first comment on Waleed’s article here for posterity’s sake. We couldn’t agree more.